its scientists, its doctors are being very quickly punished in a situation where frankly we don't know all that much right now? >> well, alex, i agree 100%. i think we need to be thankful that countries like south africa have invested in gene nick sequencing and have been able to pick up strains like this. variants will be popping up and continue globally until we control this pandemic, and the worst thing we can do is punish countries for doing the right thing, for reporting the var yabts because then what's going to happen is countries will start reporting what they find or will stop sequencing and that will be worse, so if we want transparency we need not to have this kind of travel ban because at the end of the day what we need to do is increase vaccination. south africa only has 28% to 38% of the vaccination and many of them vaccinated with a johnson & johnson vaccine that we know is not as effective. what we need to do is implement a rapid scale-up of vaccines in