up for, to rethink what the party stands for, to cleave the party and say it is better to lose a general election and re-set the party than to sign on for another four years of this. if that is your goal, it makes sense to do exactly what they're doing. >> will the republican -- the people that will decide that nominee, are they going to -- >> it is just so fascinating to see the old guard versus the new guard within the republican party. mike pence for instance pushing a lot of the issues. more support for ukraine. that is something that is supported among the base, just such a fundamental philosophical divide and so much to play out in the months ahead. ahead, trump's fourth disciple was in the books. but will any of the trials kick off before republicans decide on a nominee?