bully or get past the bully, you have to confront the person in front of you before you could talk about pivoting to joe biden. >> and they are not doing that. and this came up in the debate last week when it was put to ron desantis about the -- all of the candidates about the trump indictments and desantis wanted to move on. >> is this what we're going to be focussing on going forward? the rehashing of it. the democrats would love that and they will win if we let them. >> governor desantis, we spend an hour talking about policy and former president trump is beating you by 30, 40 points in many polls so it is a factor in the gop primary. >> do you think the dooepesanti campaign is handling this correctly. >> it is clear what he was trying to do in the debate. and move past the question. but that is the fundamental question of the primary and they clearly don't wan to deal with it. so until someone comes up with a way to go at trump, they all attacked vivek ramaswamy as a