standpoint. yeah, you're right, i don't know that i know. >> maybe a big chunk of people have no idea what the secretary of state does. >> to be care, this might be the first time in their voting lives that this has really been a major issue on the ballot. >> yeah. and when you look at arizona, given the slate of candidates, that graphic you had up before in terms of all of them being election deniers, to the discussion earlier, arizona is emblematic of this national shift in the republican party and the fullest realization of that potential for what donald trump has tried to turn the republican party into. >> absolutely. it's a state we will be very focused on, come november. up next for us, we just so happen to have two of the best reporters covering trump sitting here. so coming up next, we'll ask them what they see when they look into the future and see what the president's past is going to do -- to what we might do coming down the pike, up