kemp was not an election denier, and you can't throw that in his face. mastriano is someone who says no abortion, so he's creating a scenario where a candidate can say look, there's real-life consequence to this person coming forward. so i think nationally, like media wise, we don't always focus on governor's races because the senate is so significant. but like people in their states very much, it can alter the whole atmosphere of an election cycle. >> i find the contrast between pennsylvania and arizona fast nating. because mastriano and kari lake are indistinguishable on the election. they've said the election was stolen.

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