>> they have to. >> is it desirable that they coexist because in the end this project of bringing putin into the fold and we can apply this to china, too, has failed. the idea that they would participate in our system, which is based on an order that's meant to preserve our values, has failed. that's clear on the battlefields of ukraine. how we go forward is we realize these dictatorships are not in the business of working with us. >> that's very interesting. thank you, josh and beth for being with us this morning. coming up next for us, how the ukraine crisis is shaping and reshaping joe biden's presidency. cozy and precocious. with 465 fresh, clean, craveable pairingsgs, find a you pick 2 for any mood. enjoy a 1 dollar delivery fee when you order on our app. plaque psoriasis, the tightness, stinging... ...the pain. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to sere plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover carer skin and improve symptom.