rise to the level of an impeachment offense? but the facts are the facts, and he did it. >> why can't they own the position that they won't go as far as you can, but it was wrong. shouldn't have mentioned bien. shouldn't have done it this way. shouldn't have held up the aid this way but we believe he had good intentions. not worthy of removal. they got the aid. he didn't get any dirt. >> because the president will destroy them. and they know it. >> so what happens with sondland today? how big a deal is he? >> he's been characterized by others as a bit of a free radical, so stay tuned. buckle up. he's got three choices. right? i mean, he can perjure himself. he can have amnies meihave amne right thing. >> what is the chance that it was fishy that the eu ambassador had something to do with ukraine