>> it's complicated. you have to cross the river and go to the china north korea border and cross the river and go through the mountain. all of that to flee north korea. as you said, you can go across the dmz and there are instances in the past, a few years ago, a north korean soldier tried to escape, got shot in the back. as you mentioned, it's heavily fortified. soldiers. land mines. that's very risky. the real way to escape is really just the border. go through the border. >> when you go to north into china, you're not free as i discovered in the movie because if the chinese get you, they'll just send you back to north korea. >> i think that's one of the most important things about this film. you realize you think that most people might think okay, fleeing north korea is the hardest part. no, that's just the first step and the real danger begins when you're in china because china's policy is to not recognize them