andrew shepherd, we were pleasant so you can actually play against that because you're gonna be the humble i'll look at him for the echoes case, but it ben franklin, everything because the audience knows so much about you. you don't have to push so does strange way, it's become my little more passively and let them come to you did you find that there was something about ben franklin, european actors sometimes say there's a trick, there's something that made me understand his personality either a gesture or voice or something. >> what do you was there something that was at the core of ben franklin, his curiosity, he had immense curiosity and he had the mindset to try to be able to complete a whole picture i mean, the way i think of it as well, we all have ideas, but it's very few. >> we can take our ideas lengthened together to a full a full consensus. and in this