new book out "space chronicles facing the ultimate frontier." >> thanks for having me. >> what i was struck by is let alone china -- >> not that the meteors are hitting, don't say struck. surprised by -- >> what i was struck by, what i was surprised by is that we all know china is making a big push and even india, but canada is the new space nation. what's this about? >> well, consider, first, canada played a major role in the space shuttle program. the arm that lives inside the payload bay of the space shuttle is called the canada arm. the flag is proudly displayed. every time this arm comes out to deploy a satellite, to retrieve a satellite, to assemble parts of the space station. so, canada has thought long and hard about space and they had many astronauts as part of this program to go up. so, we shouldn't be surprised