>> i was glad i heard his report because today i was seated behind his head and i didn't get a good look at his facial expressions, but yesterday and the day before i was i was a friend piu, and exactly the way he described him, he was today. he was very attentive. i noticed he was turned really looking at at the jurors who were being interviewed very interested. >> but i also have seen him on other days falling asleep like i couldn't keep his eyes open. but today he was really paying attention to the jurors. >> so your view then that gives you more of a view of the jurors. >> today. today, i'm in the yes so what was what did you notice from the jurors because it wasn't fairly a monel de their work couple of different moments where it got fairly emotional people raised concerns about their anxiety about perhaps being outed as a juror? >> yes they're anonymous and it's a little risky to be outed as a juror in the trump trial. >> and even as a courtroom artist, i get i get mouth