he can withdraw his forces once he has a government he deems reliable. but as many people have pointed out, there will be ongoing fighting because the ukrainians are just not going to sit down and roll over. >> no. steve, so putin gave an address today. in this address he was very animated, leaning forward, much more animated than normal, talking fast. and he told ukrainians not to let, quote, neo-nazis use your children, wives and old people as human shields. first of all, that is a clear justification for killing civilians. you're saying if the other side fights against you, then you have a right to kill their families. okay, it's horrific. i know you are concerned about his mind. tell me why. what do you see when you hear him, these words and see his body language now, steve? >> it's really difficult, obviously, to read putin, even under the best of circumstances. and i don't think anybody wants