story. um, and don't forget, erin, that these people know they are being targeted. this is one reason they stay off e-mail and cell phone calls. but on the other hand, they take their houses and -- and wire them for explosives. you know, intending to kill american soldiers in a raid. and the way that he looked at his nickname was look, when you kill women and children, they go to heaven, too, as he does. they are true believers and this is what makes these missions so difficult. you don't just knock down the door and start, you know, grabbing because the intent is to kill as many americans as possible. >> it is amazing, though. two hours and -- and -- and that great risk of loss of life that the american special forces took. and -- and they did not suffer that. they were completely successful. >> absolutely. >> all right. thank you so much, bob, i really appreciate you. >> thanks. and next, mike pence's former top aides meeting with the january 6th select committee. they were tightlipped when it came to certain conversations.