numbers here, it was -- it was -- the big numbers were guilty. >> exactly. all that matters here for sentencing purposes is the guilty counts. this is a maximum of 20 years but in the federal system, we have this guidelines book. and the sentence -- the recommended sentence is driven largely by how much loss there is. we are talking about $140 million loss case. i did a quick calculation. that comes out to a recommended guidelines range of conservatively ten years, potentially as high as 15 or 16 years depending on other enhancements so she is looking at at least a decade behind bars under sentencing guidelines. >> it is stunning. one of the richest people in the country, profile after profile glowing. a fall from grace. i mean, it is -- it is an incredible story. elie, thank you very much. all right. and next, we take you inside the nation's largest pediatric hospital where doctors and nurses are working round the clock to save covid's youngest victims. plus, a top russian businessman could know the secrets behind russia's attempts