over with republicans on the hill? >> well, majority leader mitch mcconnell hasn't wanted witnesses from the beginning, kate. now, remember, there was a little bit of a division between the president and mcconnell when it came to this question of whether individuals like joe biden, like hunter biden, like the whistle-blower should come and be live witnesses in the well of the senate. many lawmakers were arguing, like john cornen, that that would lead to a circus-like atmosphere on the senate floor. but i will say the fact that joe biden is being so defiant here might lead some republicans, like rand paul, who have really wanted witnesses to try to dig in. we should note it takes 51 votes for any witnesses to be approved. mcconnell has 53 republicans. considering the fact that someone would have to introduce this as a motion and actually vote on it, it's unlikely the votes would actually be there to call joe biden. but i will tell you that was a bit of contention between mcconnell and president trump. i'll also note that a couple democrats that i talked to said, you know, joe biden would do