discussion about there not being a full-throated embrace of the ukrainian reform agenda. >> is that right. >> with respect to his concern over -- and at no point did he come to you and say i saw something or no bribe, no stefanik and anything that miss stefanik asked you. did you hear president trump make a demand of anything that would constitute a crime? >> sir, i've been trying to stay on the same side and no, sir, i did not hear him make a demand. >> you have a law degree so you are familiar with bribery and extortion. >> i'm not a lawyer for the united states, sir? >> is it fair to say as you were listening to the call you weren't thinking wow!