ukrainians and this includes talking to ukrainians over the phone, in person, through text and the ukrainians never brought up an investigation into theed bience, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> they never brought up the withholding of the aid? >> that's correct. >> they never brought up quid pro quo or bribery? >> let me bring up the aid. they did bring up the aid after the politico article. >> i'll get to that, until the politico article they didn't bring it up. >> and outside in the closed-door deposition it never came up in conversation with them, and i believe they had trust in me that they would have asked if that was really what they were worried about. >> that's correct. >> that is correct. >> and as you pointed out the ukrainians never even knew their foreign aid was on pause until the article was published in politico in august. >> that's correct. so they didn't know during the call? >> that's correct. >> in fact, you had to correct chairman schiff on his timeline in the closed-door deposition. the chairman of this committee asked you, quote, when they became aware that military assistance was being withheld

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