and we have to make clear. what the president has admitted to already in my estimation, is impeachable. >> think that is that is important. >> what he admitted was corruption was his reason for withholing the aid, right? he also wanted joe biden to be investigated, in your view that's enough. you do not need a quid pro quo where he specifically says it was for -- i'm going to hold up the military aid although the timing does line up with that, but if you don't have it on paper it doesn't matter to you. >> like i said, erin, we need corroborating evidence relative to the president's conversation and whether or not there is a quid pro quo i think is incidental. when the president of the united states of america should know that when he or she engages in conversations with foreign leaders that almost implicitly there is a quid pro quo when you express a desire for anything to be done. the president should know that. this is where the line has got to be drawn and this is also an inflexion point for the whole