tunnels. even tell one joke that once they got out that it took them ten years to get out of prison whereas the shawshank redemption character, it took 20 years to get out. kate? >> trying to break some kind of record. miguel, thank you so much. also this evening, arthur rod rickde roderick and harry houck. things that hits me is he was worg working from winter through spring. he had free reign from 11:30 p.m. every night to go through the catacombs of the prison until 5:30 in the morning. doesn't this -- shouldn't that shock everyone? >> it's hard to believe that at 11:30 was the last time they did a bed check. there was no bed check between