allowing a cartoon in for their defense. and i ran into my house and oh, god. please let my dogs be okay. they were fine. but it was the fact it hit me that it was a severed head. >> and when you, the part of the reason you link this to him was of course, you had testified at that parole hearing, you had been the judge in the case but you mentioned other things he'd done to animals. his family has raised questions about this. i'll note it's his family. nothing is fully substantiated but his parents had dogs named igor and all disappeared one after the other mysteriously. you believe this story. what do you think happened to those dogs? >> well actually i didn't hear it from the durst family. i heard it from several people including jim mccormick kathi's brother and during the trial, there was a photograph introduced found on bob when he was arrested in pennsylvania that had him and kathy in it and