years. of dogma, basically. he softens his tone on gay marriage and abortion and has spoken out more with the whole sex abuse of children scandal. so he is at least talking about it. but it will take a long time before he can get the word out. >> can't just say i will allow women priests and gay marriage. it is not that simple to win people over. >> sure. it's like congress and the senate here. he has to go through a bunch of factions within the church. he is getting the word out and using twitter, for instance. he has 3.2 million twitter followers. that is 700,000 less than piers morgan. 46 million less than the antichrist. some refer to him as the bieber, justin bieber. he only follows eight people which is all him in different languages. >> that's fascinating.