that debate between nikki haley and ron desantis was them just completely unleashed in their attacks against each other. i think it maybe easy to lose sight of of the word liar has been used so much in the last frankly sips the trump presidency. it didn't used to be something that people threw around terribly had cavalierly, but ron desantis andhill hale used that about each other. do you think they did any favors to themselves in actually trying to take on the guy who was leading the race? >> let me say desantis lies, somebody who has built websites, including this platform, it's pretty good they had that up and ready for her. the back and forth of i thought a two-person setting with jake and dana moderating, it would be