both the united states, turkey, saudi arabia supporting the rebel groups that they are targeting. so at the moment while there's an opportunity for discussion and some ground maybe for them to work, some common ground for them to work toward a political deal, it doesn't seem that they are likely to walk away with anything. what is significant here is you have the major players involved. the united states and russia, the two big international powers and the two big regional powers. so if you're going to get something done around the table, these meetings could be the place to do it. i don't think expectations are high. >> thank you for that, live from london, thank you. breaking news overnight, a category 5 hurricane spinning toward mexico this hour. this could be catastrophic, next.