Transcripts For CNN Dreamland The Burning of Black Wall Stre

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black entrepreneurship. people call it the black wall street. >> like putting harlem, bourbon street, and chocolate city all in one place. >> but white paulsons talked about it as little africa or land. >> tulsa was a powder keg, needing only something to set the community alight. between 100 and 300 people, most of them black, were killed. today we call it a massacre. they were hastily trying to get rid of the bodies. by dumping them in mass graves around the city. >> we of tulsa of an undetermined number, it should have not taken any nine years. >> anyone who thinks this crime scene is not going to speak does not have the ears to hear. the earth is shaking. >> i came to tulsa when i was in the sixth grade, so that has been well, i don't know how many years. my mother is from oklahoma. and there was a strong black community in tulsa called greenwood. these people were the core of black entrepreneurship. and they would help you get your business started. 1920 greenwood was booming. people called it the black wall street. and when you read the editorials, they would also post the things that were happening. and i imagine they were having a great time. what i love about greenwood is what it was. and i love what it could be. but tulsa has a truth problem. hiding the truth, and people who will not challenge what is perceived to be true. >> what is keeping tulsa from being the great shining city on the hill is dealing with the legacy of the so-called tulsa race riot of 1921. white tulsans murdered black folks and were hastily trying to get rid of the bodies. by dumping them in mass graves around the city, many were trying to get rid of the body, in the late 1990s, center maxine horn and my father, state representative don rawls created the commission to study the tulsa race riot of 1921, which brought historians, consultants, from around the world to try to figure out what happened in 1921. >> i had many conversations with riot survivors. >> you know, you are sitting there, nice little lady sitting the better. when you are 5 years old. >> it was one of the proudest moments that i can remember my father, no other major republican mayor or democrat even thought about or touched the story of the mass graves. >> when you hear about history being erased and, you know, these authoritarian regimes, you cannot imagine it would happen right here in your own hometown in the middle of the united states. and yet, it had. >> my name is, i am the mayor of tulsa, i grew up here in tulsa, my family has been here since the 18 70s, my great- great-grandfather was the second mayor of tulsa, i heard about the massacre in 2001 or 2002, i was 24 years old at this point emile, every high school student in oklahoma has to go through an oklahoma history course and it never came up. my dad had been president of the tulsa historical society, it never came up. hearing about that, it was shocking to me, because i love tulsa. i cannot believe that tulsa would be the kind of city where something like that could happen. we have tulsans of an undetermined number who were murdered in this event. so we have a responsibility i think, as a city, to try to find out where their remains are. and what happened. the fragrance. ralph lauren. at macy's, the frrance destination think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. you might have heard of carvana and that we sell cars online. we believe buying a car should be something that gets you hyped up. and that your new car ought to come with newfound happiness and zero surprises. and all of us will stop at nothing to drive you happy. we'll drive you happy at carvana. lemons, lemons, lemons. the world is so full of lemons. when you become an expedia member, you can instantly start saving on your travels. so you can go and see all those lemons, for less. 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tulsa, or greenwood, well, when did they get here? >> take one, mid slate. >> my father, who is creek indian, was from oklahoma. my family is a mixture of indian, black, and white. and here i am. >> the story of oklahoma really began with the five civilized tribes in the 1830s and 1840s. the chickasaw's, the greeks, the cherokees, the choctaw, and seminoles, they called, they recalled the five tribes, they are originally from the south. alabama, georgia, parts of florida, tennessee, mississippi, and the south carolina area. the tribes owned plantations. >> civilized is availed reference to taking on accepting eurocentric ways. one of those ways was a practice of chattel slavery, to boost oneself economically. >> at the cherokee museum today are slaves bills of sale, including john ross. >> i don't talk about it very much, because it is a very shameful part of cherokee history, so i purposely avoided involving myself in that whole history. ♪ driver man he made a life but the man he beat his wife chopping cotton don't be slow better finish out your role ♪ ♪ >> life amongst the tribes., what is important to remember is that these people were enslaved. so, by definition, it was not a good experience. if you are a slave, then you do not have your individual liberty , which arguably matters more than anything else. >> enslaving black people, it was part of the economy of those tribes. when the americans now wanted that land for their own plantations, they took the plantations from the indians. >> this was done in a legal way. bypassing, legislation, the indian removal act, the first migration of the five civilized tribes into indian territory, which is what is today, oklahoma. >> they said, we are swapping you this land for the lands west of the mississippi and indian territory. you have no choice but to go. we know it as the trail of tears. the slaves, they brought them on the trail of tears. so, just like an oxen or bowl that was pulling a wagon, the black folks were in the same situation, they did not have a choice. >> the five civilized tribes officially align themselves with the confederacy during the civil war, because slaves were needed to improve the economic fortunes of these tribes. the confederacy lost, by the way. after the civil war, the federal government negotiated with these tribes on treaties, referred to as the treaties of 1866. >> in article two of the creek treaty of 1866, it says that you will not have slaves anymore, that's a wrap. it's not going to happen anymore. those slaves that you have, they are now your tribal members, they are now your citizens. like people who had been with the indians, now 10, 15 generations, either enslaved, or married among them, or their children. they were called the freed men. the united states government forced the tribes to divide up the land among the freed men. >> they could go right back to the territory and settle among indian land. and when allotment came, they gave us an equal right in land drove. the united states government forced them to do this, i have been told. >> okay, so, on this map, this is the creek nation, this little yellow spot up here is township tulsa. the green area are the allotments of the freedmen . everyone got 160 acres if you are full blood creek. if you are full black from africa, if you are female, you got 160 acres. the freedmen allotments totaled 1 million 192,000 40 acres. 1 million, i really want people to understand that. that is a lot of land for a small geographical area. that is a lot of land to own. >> as a descendent of a creek freedmen, i believe land is power . land is wealth. land is really the core of black entrepreneurship. >> you had two types of blacks in oklahoma. you had those freedmen . then you had state blacks. state blacks came to oklahoma, looking for the promised land. >> there was a movement called boosterism this began in the 1889, using bulletins and encouraging black folks to migrate from the deep south to what is now oklahoma. the leader of that movement was called medicaid, trying to escape the oppressive deep south , and an effort to prosper economically. >> the time will come, when that time comes we will have a state, we do not wish to antagonize the whites, they are necessary, but my race owes to itself a government control of those homes. >> land meant rebirth. it meant renewal. land meant survival, there were 40 other like townships around oklahoma, the whole state, not just state, the whole state was becoming the dreamland. >> it was the promised land for a lot of people coming out of slavery, wanting to escape. and wanting to raise their families in a loving community. >> freedmen , all this land that ultimately made them wealthy. >> in oklahoma, in 1906. a city called tulsa. >> tulsa boomed after the discovery of oil. tulsa became the world, the oil capital of the world. the oil drew people from all over. seeking fame and fortune. the population just mushroomed. back then, people were 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p's barbershop, there is a legacy of my father getting his hair cut here. my son got his first haircut right here. >> how long has there been a barbershop in greenwood? >> the first barbershop i worked for was called nim's barbershop, it was in the 1100 block of north greenwood, that was in 1963. they talk about greenwood, now, one block, but it was all the way down from lansing, back to martin luther king drive today. >> 9021, 1921, greenwood was much larger than just that one block that you see today. greenwood, to the south, to the east, to the west, and to the north. the only thing we have left is just a sliver of its former self. >> every time somebody comes back, every 20 years, there is less and less greenwood, they say is this it? is this greenwood? this is what they been talking about, right? everybody wants a community where they can grow. and prosper. and that dollar can turn over. they can become educated and own their own business. why would black folks want that for themselves? >> i have been out here on the studio for 13 years now. greenwood is special. want to come down here, you feel the energy. i would hate to leave greenwood , i will fight tooth and nail before i leave, to be honest with you. >> farmers insurance is my first business, however i have a studio, greenwood fitness and recreation studio. we have a debt to our ancestors here. we have to bring back what was once there. and anyone that wants to do business here should also be engaged in that same idea. that same mentality, that same thought process. >> when i got to tulsa in 1984, i was asked to do a regular guest editorial column in the oklahoma eagle, which is the black newspaper. one of my assignments was to do a historical treatment of the greenwood district, i thought of this obligation of service, if i am going to live in the community, i want the community to be the best that it can be. we cannot do that unless we can gauge in the work right racial reconciliation. we cannot do that, unless we acknowledge our history. a black man came to oklahoma from arkansas, he bought land. he sold land to other african americans and established his first business in 1906. businesses just proliferated and they became prosperous. creating and living in this insular economic community of the greenwood district. >> the greenwood district was like mainstreet. mom and pop operations, small businesses, hotels, restaurants, grocery stores. theaters, nightclubs. >> you had the offices of african american lawyers, there were more than 12 physicians and surgeons who had their offices in greenwood. >> greenwood had about 10,000 people. they were in search for a way to be masters of their own fate. today, most of the people connect to greenwood, they think black wall street and yes, that existed here. you did have people who were pioneers and big business tycoons. living in sprawling mansions. and even most people, who were domestic workers, or owning small shops, living day-to-day. everyone has an opportunity and their skin color does not limit their capacity here. that is what makes greenwood really special, that you have this safe haven, that oasis that existed here. can a cream really reduce wrinkles? 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[ cheers and applause ] >> we are sitting in the mackie house. the mackie's are really emblematic of the kind of middle-class black person who lived in the greenwood committee during its peak. but i think that if we fixate on the things that are glamorous and more flattering, we forget that the greenwood district was a part of a city called tulsa. you have a black, segregated community, that is not getting its fair share of tax dollars for infrastructure like roads, sewer systems, and things like that. there was so much money in tulsa , but here is the reality. money plays a complicated role in greenwood, between the races. >> affluence, wealth, prosperity, it created this tie in between black tulsans , white tulsans, it is all about perspective. white tulsans talked about greenwood as little africa or negroland. >> all of these were to be found, booze, dope, and guns. >> white tulsans could control what justice looks like. they could control the narrative. they could control whatever they want. >> the only reason that black wall street existed was because of necessity. these people were not able to participate in the regular economy in the dominant culture, because of segregation. >> the vast majority of people who lived in greenwood were not wealthy. they had regular jobs in the white community. they had regular paycheck in the white community. you have a lot of well-to-do white tulsans, hiring servants, cooks, domestic workers. they would collect their paycheck at the end of the week and they would spend it back in greenwood. you know, in tulsa, like in other southern cities, african americans cannot go into a department store and try on clothes. but they had been shopping in their own neighborhoods. so what happens is, the merchants in greenwood had this captive population. and the money just flows and flows and flows. >> it was successful because it was supported by people who look like them, who purchased from them and did business with them. >> so there's people who are living all different lives in different social standings. but everyone here is making a living, whatever way they decide to. and they're not feeling the pressures and the violence from the outside world. what do you want to leave behind? what do you want to give back? what do you want to be remembered for? that's your why. it's your purpose, and we will work with you every step of the way to achieve it. at pnc private bank, we'll help you take care of the how. so tell us - what's your why? ♪ i am a business hotel. i eat, sleep, and breathe efficiency. i expect my bed sheets to be as crisp as my spreadsheets. i'm looking for someone who appreciates high rois and even higher rpms. must like hard work, punctuality, and a good firm handshake. if you're someone who likes earning rewards as much as earnings reports, i would be honored to be your perfect somewhere. ♪ ♪ ready to style in just one step? introducing new tresemme one step stylers. five professional benefits. one simple step. totally effortless. styling has never been easier. tresemme. do it with style. there's a monster problem and our hero needs solutions. so she starts a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. 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>> we took oklahoma history in the ninth grade. in our textbook, there's probably a page or a page and a half about the race massacre. we did not cover that in class. i read it because i was interested in history. and it was a real revelation. it brought home just how pervasive racism was in the united states and in the social system. >> historians often refer to the early part of the 20th century as the low point in race relations. >> african americans are under attack in all different quarers in all parts of the union. this is an era where the nature of lynchings are getting more and more barbaric. >> lynching is a form of domestic terrorism that targeted primarily african americans. in events to which people brought their children, lynching was widespread in the united states. that there would be such a film, like birth of a nation produced at the time, neither shocks nor surprises me. >> "birth of a nation," a landmark film that came out in 1915. black people were portrayed in very demeaning manner. the ku klux klan as heroes. >> "birth of nation" attests to the purity and chastity of white women. and black men missing with white women is a distinct taboo, which often did result in the death of the black man. >> the film became, you know, pretty much of a national phenomenon. president woodrow wilson endorsed it and showed it all over the country. it showed in tulsa in the convention hall. it certainly validated these ideas. >> how do you survive if you're a black person in america during this era? and part of the answer came through african american veterans of world war i. they fought in combat units in france where they were treated with respect and with hawnonor,d they came back to the united states and found none. >> we have black veterans in greenwood. they fought for their country. they fought for their freedom, so when they come home they expect to be respected. but what they come home to is again more jim crow laws, more prejudice and more restrictions on their freedom that they fought for. >> after world war i there are a number of incidences of black soldiers in uniform being lynched by white mobs. >> it's pretty stunning and remarkable. the idea is we're going to show you what your place is. we don't care whether you've fought for the country. when you're here, you play by our rules. the tulsa tribune published a series of inflammatory articles that really fomented hostility in the white community against the black community. tulsa was a pounder keg or a tinderbox needing only something to set the community alight. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. 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oh, baby, that's nothing but an omen, she said. that was the spirit of the riot telling you to go tell somebody that they are not at peace. >> the ancestors are speaking to us. the ancestors are throwing clues at us. we have a responsibility and an obligation to find the truth. >> the mass graves investigation started out in '97, actually, with don ross, kevin ross' father. >> when he was first told about the massacre, my father he thought it was a lie, it didn't happen. it was not in the history books. but then in high school we heard first-hand from the survivors who are schoolteachers at the time, and that was something that stuck with him until he got to the point he could do something about it. >> white political leaders tried to bury the truth along with all those black victims of the riot and they pretty much succeeded for 76 years until 1997 when the state legislature appointed a special commission of 11 people to finally uncover the truth about the horrific riot of 1921. >> don ross went to the governor and the legislature and said we've never had an official study of this little known event. >> hey, that was inspired by the oklahoma city bombing when they said it was the largest urban disaster in america, wrong. more people were killed than any such disaster, wrong. >> i was asked to be the historian for commission. during that period i was thinking maybe we could use this to figure out how many people died and where they were buried. >> how many? go ahead. >> i am chair of the survivors committee of the oklahoma legislative commission to study the tulsa race riot of 1921. >> i was the videographer for the race riot commission report. i was on to it accompany eddie faye gates. her job was record the systems testimonies of the riot survivors. >> we have located 51 actual living riot survivors, ages 78 to 104. no research takes the place of eyewitness testimony. that is why this day is so significant. mrs. simms. >> you'll never forget that riot. that's something that will always be in your memories. >> this has been the age-old story here in tulsa, never knew what happened to my great-uncle, never saw my aunt again. you hear those stories over the ages. people were coming in with oral history where bodies could be buried. >> we interviewed over 300 tulsans to identify what we thought were likely spots in town where victims of the massacre were likely buried in graves. >> he took some steps he took 78 years ago. days after the tulsa race riot, he was 10 at the time, drawn by the curious sight of men digging a trench with large boxes stacked nearby. >> clyde eddie talk about at the age of 10 when he was at the oak lawn cemetery, he saw these giant boxes. he and his cousin would go to the crates -- >> they opened the first box and there were -- excuse me -- there were three bodies with black people in them. the stench was terrible. >> there were other boxes, lift up the lid and saw that there was black folks inside of that one. black people in a box dead. that's something that will be etched in your mind forever. and so for him to tell that story with such conviction, i say let's dig them up now. >> so many have said there were no bodies there, but you know all the black folk in the community, we believe they're there. those stories were passed onto us. >> inch by inch crews are digging into the history of the 1921 tulsa race massacre. tulsa's mayor, initiated the study to find out if there are any black victims in the mass graves. >> there was a systematic cover up of the event. it should not have taken 99 years. >> we have to pay attention. we have to pick up the charred baton that has been left in our hands and figure out where the screams are coming from. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ treat dad to father's day at lowe's. hi! need new glasses?! get 2 pairs for $99 at visionworks! how can you see me squinting?! i can't! i'm just telling everyone! hey! now, get two complete pairs starting at $99. visionworks. see the difference. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor you're an owner. that means that your goals are ours too. and vanguard retirement tools and advice can help you get there. that's the value of ownership. it's started. somewhere between a cuddle and a struggle, it's...the side hug. tween milestones like this may start at age 9. hpv vaccination - a type of cancer prevention against certain hpv-related cancers, can start then too. for most, hpv clears on its own. but for others, it can cause certain cancers later in life. you're welcome! now, as the "dad cab", it's my cue to help protect them. embrace this phase. help protect them in the next. ask their doctor about hpv vaccination today. ♪ making friends again, billy? 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(soft music) as the evening starts to fall may 31st, by 7:00, there are already hundreds of people circling around the courthouse. by 9:00, 10:00 is where things really start to reach this sort of boiling point and shots are fired. at the same time all this is happening downtown, you have people that are still waiting to go to their prom at booker t. washington. you have people that are still going to movies in the dreamland and the cotton theater. you have people still moving about in their lives who aren't aware of what's happening. >> we went down to a late show movie. someone came in and shouted nigger fight, nigger fight. we went out the door. just got there when someone shot him. and wouldn't let anyone touch him, pick him up, but he was the first man that was shot in the riot. >> nobody cares about dick rowland. the white mob is now out to get any black person in their sights. >> the teaming white mob spilled over the tracks into the greenwood community. >> carrying rifles, pistols, matches, and cans of gasoline. >> in the words of one of the massacre survivors, all hell broke loose. looting, shooting, burning, destroying everything in sight. >> people are taking shelter in their homes or packing up their stuff and fleeing with whatever they can. >> mother said here they come, here they come. and they came in the house with torches, and they set the house on fire. oh, it was like a nightmare. everything was in flames. >> on the evening of may 31st, my little girl had not retired but was watching the people from the window. she said, mother, i see men with guns. and i ran to the window and looked out. there i saw many people gathered in little squads talking excitedly. there was a great shadow in the sky, and on a second look we discerned this cloud was caused by fast approaching airplanes. it then dawned upon us that the enemy had organized in the night and was invading our district the same as the germans invaded france. i took my little girl florence, mary, by the hand and fled out the west door on greenwood, running amidst showers of bullets. >> i was so afraid because bullets were coming down around us, but the planes were up in the air shooting down. and i could hear those bullets falling, and there were a lot of people running, dodging the bullets and just afraid. >> they're shooting people on sight. even if you're complying with their demands. that's what happened to dr. ac jackson. >> a.c. jackson was a prominent black surgeon. he was accosted at his home. he exited in compliance with the demands of the mobsters, hands held high, but he was actually gunned down by a young white men, and then he ultimately bled to death. black men put up a vigorous, robust defense. they were outgunned and outnumbered and overmatched. the violence lasted 16 hours. a unit of the national guard sent in from oklahoma city. when the dust settled, at least 1,250 homes in the black community were destroyed. between 100 and 300 people, most of them black, were killed. ♪ >> so 20 years ago we had a mayor here that said, hey, we're going to go into oak lawn and we're going to escavate because we have an idea of where some bodies might be. >> we brought in ground penetrating radar. they showed there were anomalies in these areas. >> i was 20 years younger standing out in oak lawn. we were all out there like we're about to do this, right? they called it off abruptly because there was a white family that did not want that area to be disturbed. they suggested that there was perhaps a white body that was buried underground and that that body would have been disturbed as you're looking for a race massacre there. >> our effort got caught up in politics. >> a bunch of lawmakers that pretty much really didn't care. they made the state look bad. >> i am thoroughly convinced the state of oklahoma was not culpable. >> we were shutdown by the city of tulsa, and at that point, you know, i thought the ball game was over. >> this is a historic day for tulsa and for our country as we begin a test excavation in oak lawn cemetery. >> there's nothing abstract. there's nothing theoretical. this is not a research project. this is an investigation. >> scientists are set to finally break ground in the effort to find victims of the tulsa race massacre. >> nearly 100 years later the families of the victims of the 1921 tulsa race massacre could get answers and closure. >> it should have been done well before now, but it wasn't. that is the baton that's been handed to us, and it is -- it is not an easy race. >> the initial excavation we focused on a location within oak lawn cemetery that we felt had a high likelihood for encountering a mass grave. we focused on an anomaly that had been detected. that anomaly to us was an indication that it was possibly a mass grave. as we were escavating down we very quickly realized that we had materials that didn't really belong there. >> the search turned up many old artifacts, but after reaching 3 1/2 meters in depth, the excavation was called off on wednesday. >> we do not have indications of a mass grave in this portion of oak lawn cemetery. >> sometimes stuff just make you want to give up. other times you're like no, you keep going because ancestors are not going to let you give up. they're going to keep pushing you. you say you quit, no, you get up and do it all over again. >> that's why it's cold today. ancestors are like you're going to feel the chill of my bones today, man. yes, that's what they want us to feel. they want everybody to feel what that feels like. right now, we're all feelin' the squeeze. we're having to get creative. find a new way. but birthdays still happen. fridays still call for s'mores. you have to make magic, and you're figuring out how to do that. what you don't have to figure out is where to shop. because while you're getting creative, walmart is doing what we always do. keeping prices low for you every day. so you can save money and live better. ♪ with best western rewards you get rewarded when you stay on the road and on the go. find your rewards so you can reconnect, disconnect, hold on tight and let go! stay two nights and get a free night. book now at bestwestern.com. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? 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>> the people who had homes to go to went to those homes. some people left town. the red cross was operating out of booker t. washington high school, and the red cross would buy them a train ticket if they wanted to leave town. >> i found that the high school building was still standing. i saw a big white streamer with a red cross on it. i felt pangs of joy. this meant to me i was getting in close touch with friends again. i breathed a prayer of thanks. >> the red cross began obtaining these tents that people could live in. >> many black families spent days, weeks, months living in tent cities on the charred earth. >> we stayed in those camps five or six months until you could establish yourself and move somewhere else. >> everything they had was gone, and they were expected to immediately just go about their lives like nothing had happened. you have to think the trauma was -- was terrible. >> we reach in the house, i saw my piano and all my furniture piled in the street. my safe had been been broken open, all my money stolen. all my silverware, cut glass, all my family clothing. everything of value had been removed. even my family bible. my car was stolen and most of my large rugs were taken. i lost 17 houses that paid me an average of over $425 per month. >> in the immediate aftermath there was a grand jury, and it indicted i think it's 88 people some of whom were white, most of whom were black. >> first it was the indictment of jb strafford who had a hotel and was a lawyer. he along with a number of other black men was indicted for inciting a riot. >> let the blame for this negro up rising lay right where it belongs, on those armed negroes and their followers who started this trouble and who instigated it. and any persons who seeks to put half the blame on the white people are wrong. >> when i learned about bodies being dumped in mass graves and not ever receiving a proper burial, that touched me as a pastor on a visceral level. ♪ >> as a pastor when you bury somebody it's more than just giving a eulogy. when we do what we call the committal which is that ashes to ashes, dust to dust over their poddies, that is our way of spiritually releasing them to go wherever they're going. and to deny that to the people that were dumped or killed during the race massacre, it's evil. it shows you that at that time period people didn't even care about the souls of black folks let alone their bodies. i believe there is no expiration date on morality. and if it was wrong in 1921 and has not been repaired before today, then we ought to do something about it. back then we could barely afford a hostel. i'm glad we invested for the long term with vanguard. and now, we're back here again... no jobs, no kids, just us. and our advisor is preparing us for what lies ahead. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor you're an owner. giving you confidence throughout today's longer retirement. that's the value of ownership. there's a monster problem and our hero needs solutions. so she starts a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. 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what can i do to prevent this from happening again to my children. >> there has always been a scar to me and i don't have -- never even thought about speaking. you kind of have to. i said why did you dig a burial of worms? forget about what happened. >> that is another part of trauma. the silence that it creates. while people were murdered we also need to talk about how they lived, what they built. we need to talk about what's left behind and tell that story because that story lasts for 100 years. the massacre was two days. ♪ oh lord ♪ ♪ there can never be a lie ♪ ♪ to take the darkness ♪ ♪ away ♪ >> people say why don't you leave here? because the memory of something that i will never see anywhere else is still here. >> these pages contain all of the photographs of my ancestor who lived on greenwood, the memory. we're connected to our memories. ♪ people never forget ♪ >> olivia hooker, a survivor, was a really beautiful soul. >> that night of the massacre, olivia hooker who's a 6-year-old girl saw her own home ripped apart. ♪ the day they burned ♪ >> white folks came into her house, destroyed her piano with a hatchet and when they left she went over there and they struck the keyboard. and there was still sound coming out of that piano. that's who greenwood is. you might destroy the outside of me. you might shoot me why you might burn me. you're not going to destroy my soul. we still got a song to sing. ♪ oh the pain ♪ >> we have these cycles of greenwood being built, destroyed, rebuilt. if you look at it altogether in 100-year journey, it's a consistent story of resilience. >> we are so close to getting over this madness. in time, we can go on to be a great city. we are destined to be. ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will always remember ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will always remember ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ >> my dreams of what greenwood should look like, it should look like us. >> my hope for greenwood is that she can become back what she used to be. >> i wish greenwood would be healed. a lot of stuff was buried deep. >> my dream is to have a replicate of 1921 with the black businesses, everybody supporting each other. >> we are the youngest business owners on greenwood. i would like to see young people, you know, rebuilding black wall street. >> let there be some type of closure and some type of life we are enjoying. >> we need to reclaim what was ours from the beginning. our people built black wall street by hard work and dedication. we did it one time, we can do it again. >> greenwood can be that again. we can be all that we want to be. don't touch that dial. we're about to flip it for you. >> in five, four, three, two. >> tv is changing dramatically now with 150 channels that might be available in the near future. >> there's a lot of things that we do that you couldn't have on network television. >> people are really trying to do something adventurous. >> channel 7, shame on you! >> this is more celebration of culture and opening the doors and allowing america to come on inside. >> there is always something on television and some of it may be better than we deserve. >> that was cool. ♪

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black entrepreneurship. people call it the black wall street. >> like putting harlem, bourbon street, and chocolate city all in one place. >> but white paulsons talked about it as little africa or land. >> tulsa was a powder keg, needing only something to set the community alight. between 100 and 300 people, most of them black, were killed. today we call it a massacre. they were hastily trying to get rid of the bodies. by dumping them in mass graves around the city. >> we of tulsa of an undetermined number, it should have not taken any nine years. >> anyone who thinks this crime scene is not going to speak does not have the ears to hear. the earth is shaking. >> i came to tulsa when i was in the sixth grade, so that has been well, i don't know how many years. my mother is from oklahoma. and there was a strong black community in tulsa called greenwood. these people were the core of black entrepreneurship. and they would help you get your business started. 1920 greenwood was booming. people called it the black wall street. and when you read the editorials, they would also post the things that were happening. and i imagine they were having a great time. what i love about greenwood is what it was. and i love what it could be. but tulsa has a truth problem. hiding the truth, and people who will not challenge what is perceived to be true. >> what is keeping tulsa from being the great shining city on the hill is dealing with the legacy of the so-called tulsa race riot of 1921. white tulsans murdered black folks and were hastily trying to get rid of the bodies. by dumping them in mass graves around the city, many were trying to get rid of the body, in the late 1990s, center maxine horn and my father, state representative don rawls created the commission to study the tulsa race riot of 1921, which brought historians, consultants, from around the world to try to figure out what happened in 1921. >> i had many conversations with riot survivors. >> you know, you are sitting there, nice little lady sitting the better. when you are 5 years old. >> it was one of the proudest moments that i can remember my father, no other major republican mayor or democrat even thought about or touched the story of the mass graves. >> when you hear about history being erased and, you know, these authoritarian regimes, you cannot imagine it would happen right here in your own hometown in the middle of the united states. and yet, it had. >> my name is, i am the mayor of tulsa, i grew up here in tulsa, my family has been here since the 18 70s, my great- great-grandfather was the second mayor of tulsa, i heard about the massacre in 2001 or 2002, i was 24 years old at this point emile, every high school student in oklahoma has to go through an oklahoma history course and it never came up. my dad had been president of the tulsa historical society, it never came up. hearing about that, it was shocking to me, because i love tulsa. i cannot believe that tulsa would be the kind of city where something like that could happen. we have tulsans of an undetermined number who were murdered in this event. so we have a responsibility i think, as a city, to try to find out where their remains are. and what happened. the fragrance. ralph lauren. at macy's, the frrance destination think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. you might have heard of carvana and that we sell cars online. we believe buying a car should be something that gets you hyped up. and that your new car ought to come with newfound happiness and zero surprises. and all of us will stop at nothing to drive you happy. we'll drive you happy at carvana. lemons, lemons, lemons. the world is so full of lemons. when you become an expedia member, you can instantly start saving on your travels. so you can go and see all those lemons, for less. 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tulsa, or greenwood, well, when did they get here? >> take one, mid slate. >> my father, who is creek indian, was from oklahoma. my family is a mixture of indian, black, and white. and here i am. >> the story of oklahoma really began with the five civilized tribes in the 1830s and 1840s. the chickasaw's, the greeks, the cherokees, the choctaw, and seminoles, they called, they recalled the five tribes, they are originally from the south. alabama, georgia, parts of florida, tennessee, mississippi, and the south carolina area. the tribes owned plantations. >> civilized is availed reference to taking on accepting eurocentric ways. one of those ways was a practice of chattel slavery, to boost oneself economically. >> at the cherokee museum today are slaves bills of sale, including john ross. >> i don't talk about it very much, because it is a very shameful part of cherokee history, so i purposely avoided involving myself in that whole history. ♪ driver man he made a life but the man he beat his wife chopping cotton don't be slow better finish out your role ♪ ♪ >> life amongst the tribes., what is important to remember is that these people were enslaved. so, by definition, it was not a good experience. if you are a slave, then you do not have your individual liberty , which arguably matters more than anything else. >> enslaving black people, it was part of the economy of those tribes. when the americans now wanted that land for their own plantations, they took the plantations from the indians. >> this was done in a legal way. bypassing, legislation, the indian removal act, the first migration of the five civilized tribes into indian territory, which is what is today, oklahoma. >> they said, we are swapping you this land for the lands west of the mississippi and indian territory. you have no choice but to go. we know it as the trail of tears. the slaves, they brought them on the trail of tears. so, just like an oxen or bowl that was pulling a wagon, the black folks were in the same situation, they did not have a choice. >> the five civilized tribes officially align themselves with the confederacy during the civil war, because slaves were needed to improve the economic fortunes of these tribes. the confederacy lost, by the way. after the civil war, the federal government negotiated with these tribes on treaties, referred to as the treaties of 1866. >> in article two of the creek treaty of 1866, it says that you will not have slaves anymore, that's a wrap. it's not going to happen anymore. those slaves that you have, they are now your tribal members, they are now your citizens. like people who had been with the indians, now 10, 15 generations, either enslaved, or married among them, or their children. they were called the freed men. the united states government forced the tribes to divide up the land among the freed men. >> they could go right back to the territory and settle among indian land. and when allotment came, they gave us an equal right in land drove. the united states government forced them to do this, i have been told. >> okay, so, on this map, this is the creek nation, this little yellow spot up here is township tulsa. the green area are the allotments of the freedmen . everyone got 160 acres if you are full blood creek. if you are full black from africa, if you are female, you got 160 acres. the freedmen allotments totaled 1 million 192,000 40 acres. 1 million, i really want people to understand that. that is a lot of land for a small geographical area. that is a lot of land to own. >> as a descendent of a creek freedmen, i believe land is power . land is wealth. land is really the core of black entrepreneurship. >> you had two types of blacks in oklahoma. you had those freedmen . then you had state blacks. state blacks came to oklahoma, looking for the promised land. >> there was a movement called boosterism this began in the 1889, using bulletins and encouraging black folks to migrate from the deep south to what is now oklahoma. the leader of that movement was called medicaid, trying to escape the oppressive deep south , and an effort to prosper economically. >> the time will come, when that time comes we will have a state, we do not wish to antagonize the whites, they are necessary, but my race owes to itself a government control of those homes. >> land meant rebirth. it meant renewal. land meant survival, there were 40 other like townships around oklahoma, the whole state, not just state, the whole state was becoming the dreamland. >> it was the promised land for a lot of people coming out of slavery, wanting to escape. and wanting to raise their families in a loving community. >> freedmen , all this land that ultimately made them wealthy. >> in oklahoma, in 1906. a city called tulsa. >> tulsa boomed after the discovery of oil. tulsa became the world, the oil capital of the world. the oil drew people from all over. seeking fame and fortune. the population just mushroomed. back then, people were 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p's barbershop, there is a legacy of my father getting his hair cut here. my son got his first haircut right here. >> how long has there been a barbershop in greenwood? >> the first barbershop i worked for was called nim's barbershop, it was in the 1100 block of north greenwood, that was in 1963. they talk about greenwood, now, one block, but it was all the way down from lansing, back to martin luther king drive today. >> 9021, 1921, greenwood was much larger than just that one block that you see today. greenwood, to the south, to the east, to the west, and to the north. the only thing we have left is just a sliver of its former self. >> every time somebody comes back, every 20 years, there is less and less greenwood, they say is this it? is this greenwood? this is what they been talking about, right? everybody wants a community where they can grow. and prosper. and that dollar can turn over. they can become educated and own their own business. why would black folks want that for themselves? >> i have been out here on the studio for 13 years now. greenwood is special. want to come down here, you feel the energy. i would hate to leave greenwood , i will fight tooth and nail before i leave, to be honest with you. >> farmers insurance is my first business, however i have a studio, greenwood fitness and recreation studio. we have a debt to our ancestors here. we have to bring back what was once there. and anyone that wants to do business here should also be engaged in that same idea. that same mentality, that same thought process. >> when i got to tulsa in 1984, i was asked to do a regular guest editorial column in the oklahoma eagle, which is the black newspaper. one of my assignments was to do a historical treatment of the greenwood district, i thought of this obligation of service, if i am going to live in the community, i want the community to be the best that it can be. we cannot do that unless we can gauge in the work right racial reconciliation. we cannot do that, unless we acknowledge our history. a black man came to oklahoma from arkansas, he bought land. he sold land to other african americans and established his first business in 1906. businesses just proliferated and they became prosperous. creating and living in this insular economic community of the greenwood district. >> the greenwood district was like mainstreet. mom and pop operations, small businesses, hotels, restaurants, grocery stores. theaters, nightclubs. >> you had the offices of african american lawyers, there were more than 12 physicians and surgeons who had their offices in greenwood. >> greenwood had about 10,000 people. they were in search for a way to be masters of their own fate. today, most of the people connect to greenwood, they think black wall street and yes, that existed here. you did have people who were pioneers and big business tycoons. living in sprawling mansions. and even most people, who were domestic workers, or owning small shops, living day-to-day. everyone has an opportunity and their skin color does not limit their capacity here. that is what makes greenwood really special, that you have this safe haven, that oasis that existed here. can a cream really reduce wrinkles? 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[ cheers and applause ] >> we are sitting in the mackie house. the mackie's are really emblematic of the kind of middle-class black person who lived in the greenwood committee during its peak. but i think that if we fixate on the things that are glamorous and more flattering, we forget that the greenwood district was a part of a city called tulsa. you have a black, segregated community, that is not getting its fair share of tax dollars for infrastructure like roads, sewer systems, and things like that. there was so much money in tulsa , but here is the reality. money plays a complicated role in greenwood, between the races. >> affluence, wealth, prosperity, it created this tie in between black tulsans , white tulsans, it is all about perspective. white tulsans talked about greenwood as little africa or negroland. >> all of these were to be found, booze, dope, and guns. >> white tulsans could control what justice looks like. they could control the narrative. they could control whatever they want. >> the only reason that black wall street existed was because of necessity. these people were not able to participate in the regular economy in the dominant culture, because of segregation. >> the vast majority of people who lived in greenwood were not wealthy. they had regular jobs in the white community. they had regular paycheck in the white community. you have a lot of well-to-do white tulsans, hiring servants, cooks, domestic workers. they would collect their paycheck at the end of the week and they would spend it back in greenwood. you know, in tulsa, like in other southern cities, african americans cannot go into a department store and try on clothes. but they had been shopping in their own neighborhoods. so what happens is, the merchants in greenwood had this captive population. and the money just flows and flows and flows. >> it was successful because it was supported by people who look like them, who purchased from them and did business with them. >> so there's people who are living all different lives in different social standings. but everyone here is making a living, whatever way they decide to. and they're not feeling the pressures and the violence from the outside world. what do you want to leave behind? what do you want to give back? what do you want to be remembered for? that's your why. it's your purpose, and we will work with you every step of the way to achieve it. at pnc private bank, we'll help you take care of the how. so tell us - what's your why? ♪ i am a business hotel. i eat, sleep, and breathe efficiency. i expect my bed sheets to be as crisp as my spreadsheets. i'm looking for someone who appreciates high rois and even higher rpms. must like hard work, punctuality, and a good firm handshake. if you're someone who likes earning rewards as much as earnings reports, i would be honored to be your perfect somewhere. ♪ ♪ ready to style in just one step? introducing new tresemme one step stylers. five professional benefits. one simple step. totally effortless. styling has never been easier. tresemme. do it with style. there's a monster problem and our hero needs solutions. so she starts a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. 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>> we took oklahoma history in the ninth grade. in our textbook, there's probably a page or a page and a half about the race massacre. we did not cover that in class. i read it because i was interested in history. and it was a real revelation. it brought home just how pervasive racism was in the united states and in the social system. >> historians often refer to the early part of the 20th century as the low point in race relations. >> african americans are under attack in all different quarers in all parts of the union. this is an era where the nature of lynchings are getting more and more barbaric. >> lynching is a form of domestic terrorism that targeted primarily african americans. in events to which people brought their children, lynching was widespread in the united states. that there would be such a film, like birth of a nation produced at the time, neither shocks nor surprises me. >> "birth of a nation," a landmark film that came out in 1915. black people were portrayed in very demeaning manner. the ku klux klan as heroes. >> "birth of nation" attests to the purity and chastity of white women. and black men missing with white women is a distinct taboo, which often did result in the death of the black man. >> the film became, you know, pretty much of a national phenomenon. president woodrow wilson endorsed it and showed it all over the country. it showed in tulsa in the convention hall. it certainly validated these ideas. >> how do you survive if you're a black person in america during this era? 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oh, baby, that's nothing but an omen, she said. that was the spirit of the riot telling you to go tell somebody that they are not at peace. >> the ancestors are speaking to us. the ancestors are throwing clues at us. we have a responsibility and an obligation to find the truth. >> the mass graves investigation started out in '97, actually, with don ross, kevin ross' father. >> when he was first told about the massacre, my father he thought it was a lie, it didn't happen. it was not in the history books. but then in high school we heard first-hand from the survivors who are schoolteachers at the time, and that was something that stuck with him until he got to the point he could do something about it. >> white political leaders tried to bury the truth along with all those black victims of the riot and they pretty much succeeded for 76 years until 1997 when the state legislature appointed a special commission of 11 people to finally uncover the truth about the horrific riot of 1921. >> don ross went to the governor and the legislature and said we've never had an official study of this little known event. >> hey, that was inspired by the oklahoma city bombing when they said it was the largest urban disaster in america, wrong. more people were killed than any such disaster, wrong. >> i was asked to be the historian for commission. during that period i was thinking maybe we could use this to figure out how many people died and where they were buried. >> how many? go ahead. >> i am chair of the survivors committee of the oklahoma legislative commission to study the tulsa race riot of 1921. >> i was the videographer for the race riot commission report. i was on to it accompany eddie faye gates. her job was record the systems testimonies of the riot survivors. >> we have located 51 actual living riot survivors, ages 78 to 104. no research takes the place of eyewitness testimony. that is why this day is so significant. mrs. simms. >> you'll never forget that riot. that's something that will always be in your memories. >> this has been the age-old story here in tulsa, never knew what happened to my great-uncle, never saw my aunt again. you hear those stories over the ages. people were coming in with oral history where bodies could be buried. >> we interviewed over 300 tulsans to identify what we thought were likely spots in town where victims of the massacre were likely buried in graves. >> he took some steps he took 78 years ago. days after the tulsa race riot, he was 10 at the time, drawn by the curious sight of men digging a trench with large boxes stacked nearby. >> clyde eddie talk about at the age of 10 when he was at the oak lawn cemetery, he saw these giant boxes. he and his cousin would go to the crates -- >> they opened the first box and there were -- excuse me -- there were three bodies with black people in them. the stench was terrible. >> there were other boxes, lift up the lid and saw that there was black folks inside of that one. black people in a box dead. that's something that will be etched in your mind forever. and so for him to tell that story with such conviction, i say let's dig them up now. >> so many have said there were no bodies there, but you know all the black folk in the community, we believe they're there. those stories were passed onto us. >> inch by inch crews are digging into the history of the 1921 tulsa race massacre. tulsa's mayor, initiated the study to find out if there are any black victims in the mass graves. >> there was a systematic cover up of the event. it should not have taken 99 years. >> we have to pay attention. we have to pick up the charred baton that has been left in our hands and figure out where the screams are coming from. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ treat dad to father's day at lowe's. hi! need new glasses?! get 2 pairs for $99 at visionworks! how can you see me squinting?! i can't! i'm just telling everyone! hey! now, get two complete pairs starting at $99. visionworks. see the difference. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor you're an owner. that means that your goals are ours too. and vanguard retirement tools and advice can help you get there. that's the value of ownership. it's started. somewhere between a cuddle and a struggle, it's...the side hug. tween milestones like this may start at age 9. hpv vaccination - a type of cancer prevention against certain hpv-related cancers, can start then too. for most, hpv clears on its own. but for others, it can cause certain cancers later in life. you're welcome! now, as the "dad cab", it's my cue to help protect them. embrace this phase. help protect them in the next. ask their doctor about hpv vaccination today. ♪ making friends again, billy? 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they called it off abruptly because there was a white family that did not want that area to be disturbed. they suggested that there was perhaps a white body that was buried underground and that that body would have been disturbed as you're looking for a race massacre there. >> our effort got caught up in politics. >> a bunch of lawmakers that pretty much really didn't care. they made the state look bad. >> i am thoroughly convinced the state of oklahoma was not culpable. >> we were shutdown by the city of tulsa, and at that point, you know, i thought the ball game was over. >> this is a historic day for tulsa and for our country as we begin a test excavation in oak lawn cemetery. >> there's nothing abstract. there's nothing theoretical. this is not a research project. this is an investigation. >> scientists are set to finally break ground in the effort to find victims of the tulsa race massacre. >> nearly 100 years later the families of the victims of the 1921 tulsa race massacre could get answers and closure. >> it should have been done well before now, but it wasn't. that is the baton that's been handed to us, and it is -- it is not an easy race. >> the initial excavation we focused on a location within oak lawn cemetery that we felt had a high likelihood for encountering a mass grave. we focused on an anomaly that had been detected. that anomaly to us was an indication that it was possibly a mass grave. as we were escavating down we very quickly realized that we had materials that didn't really belong there. >> the search turned up many old artifacts, but after reaching 3 1/2 meters in depth, the excavation was called off on wednesday. >> we do not have indications of a mass grave in this portion of oak lawn cemetery. >> sometimes stuff just make you want to give up. other times you're like no, you keep going because ancestors are not going to let you give up. they're going to keep pushing you. you say you quit, no, you get up and do it all over again. >> that's why it's cold today. ancestors are like you're going to feel the chill of my bones today, man. yes, that's what they want us to feel. they want everybody to feel what that feels like. right now, we're all feelin' the squeeze. we're having to get creative. find a new way. but birthdays still happen. fridays still call for s'mores. you have to make magic, and you're figuring out how to do that. what you don't have to figure out is where to shop. because while you're getting creative, walmart is doing what we always do. keeping prices low for you every day. so you can save money and live better. ♪ with best western rewards you get rewarded when you stay on the road and on the go. find your rewards so you can reconnect, disconnect, hold on tight and let go! stay two nights and get a free night. book now at bestwestern.com. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? 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>> the people who had homes to go to went to those homes. some people left town. the red cross was operating out of booker t. washington high school, and the red cross would buy them a train ticket if they wanted to leave town. >> i found that the high school building was still standing. i saw a big white streamer with a red cross on it. i felt pangs of joy. this meant to me i was getting in close touch with friends again. i breathed a prayer of thanks. >> the red cross began obtaining these tents that people could live in. >> many black families spent days, weeks, months living in tent cities on the charred earth. >> we stayed in those camps five or six months until you could establish yourself and move somewhere else. >> everything they had was gone, and they were expected to immediately just go about their lives like nothing had happened. you have to think the trauma was -- was terrible. >> we reach in the house, i saw my piano and all my furniture piled in the street. my safe had been been broken open, all my money stolen. all my silverware, cut glass, all my family clothing. everything of value had been removed. even my family bible. my car was stolen and most of my large rugs were taken. i lost 17 houses that paid me an average of over $425 per month. >> in the immediate aftermath there was a grand jury, and it indicted i think it's 88 people some of whom were white, most of whom were black. >> first it was the indictment of jb strafford who had a hotel and was a lawyer. he along with a number of other black men was indicted for inciting a riot. >> let the blame for this negro up rising lay right where it belongs, on those armed negroes and their followers who started this trouble and who instigated it. and any persons who seeks to put half the blame on the white people are wrong. >> when i learned about bodies being dumped in mass graves and not ever receiving a proper burial, that touched me as a pastor on a visceral level. ♪ >> as a pastor when you bury somebody it's more than just giving a eulogy. when we do what we call the committal which is that ashes to ashes, dust to dust over their poddies, that is our way of spiritually releasing them to go wherever they're going. and to deny that to the people that were dumped or killed during the race massacre, it's evil. it shows you that at that time period people didn't even care about the souls of black folks let alone their bodies. i believe there is no expiration date on morality. and if it was wrong in 1921 and has not been repaired before today, then we ought to do something about it. back then we could barely afford a hostel. i'm glad we invested for the long term with vanguard. and now, we're back here again... no jobs, no kids, just us. and our advisor is preparing us for what lies ahead. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor you're an owner. giving you confidence throughout today's longer retirement. that's the value of ownership. there's a monster problem and our hero needs solutions. so she starts a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. 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what can i do to prevent this from happening again to my children. >> there has always been a scar to me and i don't have -- never even thought about speaking. you kind of have to. i said why did you dig a burial of worms? forget about what happened. >> that is another part of trauma. the silence that it creates. while people were murdered we also need to talk about how they lived, what they built. we need to talk about what's left behind and tell that story because that story lasts for 100 years. the massacre was two days. ♪ oh lord ♪ ♪ there can never be a lie ♪ ♪ to take the darkness ♪ ♪ away ♪ >> people say why don't you leave here? because the memory of something that i will never see anywhere else is still here. >> these pages contain all of the photographs of my ancestor who lived on greenwood, the memory. we're connected to our memories. ♪ people never forget ♪ >> olivia hooker, a survivor, was a really beautiful soul. >> that night of the massacre, olivia hooker who's a 6-year-old girl saw her own home ripped apart. ♪ the day they burned ♪ >> white folks came into her house, destroyed her piano with a hatchet and when they left she went over there and they struck the keyboard. and there was still sound coming out of that piano. that's who greenwood is. you might destroy the outside of me. you might shoot me why you might burn me. you're not going to destroy my soul. we still got a song to sing. ♪ oh the pain ♪ >> we have these cycles of greenwood being built, destroyed, rebuilt. if you look at it altogether in 100-year journey, it's a consistent story of resilience. >> we are so close to getting over this madness. in time, we can go on to be a great city. we are destined to be. ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will always remember ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ ♪ we will always remember ♪ ♪ we will never forget ♪ >> my dreams of what greenwood should look like, it should look like us. >> my hope for greenwood is that she can become back what she used to be. >> i wish greenwood would be healed. a lot of stuff was buried deep. >> my dream is to have a replicate of 1921 with the black businesses, everybody supporting each other. >> we are the youngest business owners on greenwood. i would like to see young people, you know, rebuilding black wall street. >> let there be some type of closure and some type of life we are enjoying. >> we need to reclaim what was ours from the beginning. our people built black wall street by hard work and dedication. we did it one time, we can do it again. >> greenwood can be that again. we can be all that we want to be. don't touch that dial. we're about to flip it for you. >> in five, four, three, two. >> tv is changing dramatically now with 150 channels that might be available in the near future. >> there's a lot of things that we do that you couldn't have on network television. >> people are really trying to do something adventurous. >> channel 7, shame on you! >> this is more celebration of culture and opening the doors and allowing america to come on inside. >> there is always something on television and some of it may be better than we deserve. >> that was cool. ♪

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