political for him. he's smart enough to know about what vaccines do. he worked in science all his life but became a statement. like democrats, this is good for democrats if, you know, covid was bad for donald trump and it's good for democrats. it got that black and white. and so that if he acknowledged that covid was a problem and got the vaccination, he was saying maybe the democrats are right and that's why he refused, i guess. i still haven't gotten a clear answer. >> boy, oh, boy, all right. >> don, listen, republicans are so good at creating issues of outrage that drive people to the poll. and they chose this as one of those issues to create outrage and drive people to the poll under -- >> but anna -- >> but the hypocrisy is that so many of those republicans that are banging the drums against vaccination are vaccinated themselves. >> yes, and anna -- >> including trump. >> including donald trump, including, you know, now steve