as far as i was concerned when he told me that and i'm sure that birx was aware of this as well, i haven't talked to her, at that point in time he was pretty much washing his hands of the pandemic and saying anything bad that happened wasn't his fault. and as you look through that summer and that fall, he hardly paid the pandemic any attention including when he himself got sick. so it really was usurping, just giving up his responsibility that he had been elected to just protect the american public. >> the fda's vaccine advisory board voted 17-0 with one abstention to recommend emergency use authorization for pfizer's covid vaccine for children 5 to 11 years old. the fda is expected to take up that recommendation. this means that as soon as next week around 28 million kids ages 5 to 11 could be eligible. vaccinating kids that age, is that the last hurdle to get out of this pandemic? >> i don't know if it is the last hurdle but it is a day that