that, i think we should do it. >> i think we have to deit. the days of believing it doesn't touch us are over. everybody has in their own life or somebody they love. so nobody has the excuse of saying it's just weakness, suck it up. >> can you imagine having gone through what they did and having people deny the existence of what happened, deny their efforts to protect and their lives could have been taken from them -- you know, some of them their lives were taken in a different way. another lost his life the day after the insurrection. but can you imagine having to deal with this every day now for months and months and months and then having the very people you protect deny it even happened? as michael fanone said i went to hell and back and now i have people telling me there is no hell or hell wasn't even that bad. >> i can because we watched it happen and we've seen it happen before. the good news is there's always a chance for change and hopefully we'll see that here.