and say what were the mistakes of the january 6th organizers and how do i avoid that on telegram? you have the potential for a tinder box in 2022 and people who can use encrypted communications and learn from january 6th. i don't want to be in the business anymore. i'm glad i'm on cnn. not really. >> you said that with the head and everything. >> when trump is saying, everything will be reversed, or they see signs of a plan coming together. what is the best way to push back? >> there is only one way to do that. leadership. if you encourage people to believe the election was stolen, go back seven years. if someone told you, there will be a huge conspiracy that says an election was stolen and millions of americans, tens of millions of americans would believe this including a significant percentage of one of the major parties, you would have said, is this like hollywood? what is that? you have to have leadership say