american empire and they are trying to destroy them. >> reporter: there is nothing unusual about any of this in that echo chamber. listened for just a couple hours, you will hear everything you heard there magnified more and more and more and it is not just going on for a couple hours. this is going on virtually 24/7 in that environment to tens of millions of people, an environment often free of facts but almost always full of fury. jim? >> and fear and paranoia. tom, great piece. one of the figures you highlighted, what is interesting is that even though youtube banned him from the platform a couple days ago for spreading covid misinformation, that is not likely to make a very big dent in his audience. he has a huge audience. >> yeah, if you are not listening to these shows and many people watching right now probably haven't been listening to them. it's easy to underestimate how big they are. yeah, dan, youtube can say you are not on there. it will really make little more