zazi was ralph. and their communication is going back and forth. so he was talking to people who had made bombs. and so we firmly believe that the plot was still an imminent threat. >> there was a discussion at that time about whether or not we would allow him in new york city at all. new york just did not want to take the risk of something going wrong where we would have a very, very bad situation on our hands. ultimately, the decision was made to allow him into the city to learn more about what his plan was, what he was up to, who he was going to go meet. in this case, we took risks. i mean, there was no way around it.