thus certain information you seek could be protected by attorney client, attorney privilege and other work practices. rudy was their lawyer. you can't mess with that privilege. that's doable, right? >> yes. >> so giuliani had a real arrangement with these guys, a real business arrangement. it wasn't just figurative. executive privilege. what argument is there for parnas and fruman getting executive privilege? >> they would have to be arguing they were conducting the official business of the united states government on behalf of the president of the united states. that is what they would have to claim. the president's personal activities, whether representing him as part of giuliani's efforts to represent him as personal lawyer, that would be