clearly indicates an that some conspiracy theorist orchestrated intentional wrong. says is still running around in a clear abuse of the president's the ukraine. power. and unfortunately, trump period. there can be no good faith actually followed through on argument made otherwise. that multiple times, including the one you cited in the report just now, which is that he trump told the president of the ukraine to look at the dnc and actually said "i want to see the bidens. he told ambassador sondland that president zelensky of ukraine go he wanted ukraine to announce on public television, and i want to see him myself commit to this those investigations, that everything was tied to that. investigation before military it was known by all that there aid can be resumed. >> so if the idea of no straw would be no aid nor any meeting man, if the idea of no quid pro with the two presidents until trump got what he wanted. quo is a straw man argument, and it is, in my take, the steel man sondland told taylor that the argument is congressman president told him what he connolly, it never happened. wanted, which is the definition i didn't get the dirt on the of a quid pro quo, right after bidens. i didn't get the dirt on the dnc. i didn't keep the aid from them. saying, the president says, no they weren't compromised by any quid pro quo. of this. look, this president may be our relationship wasn't unethical and abusive of his compromised by this. so there is no damage. power, but he's not stupid. therefore, removal is excessive see for yourself. ambassador sondland said that he this close to an election with a had talked to president zelensky first-term president.