keel these protests? they're certainly still on the streets here at this particular point. as far as being the most well equipped and armed people inside the town, we don't know. the question if ukraine -- do we in turn see a reaction from the russian forces? nato and washington say -- >> nick, the difference in et a -- rhetoric, that's an important note to make. now the interior minister is calling the government response an anti-terror operation. might that give the ukrainian government more of a pretext to use greater force than we've seen before, specifically in crimea? >> reporter: obviously when governments start calling insurgencies or those inside their own country terrorists that's an escalation. the needs the government thinks it has to reign in those