knead to focus on the issue at hand and not use -- these folks who are fleeing immense violence and cruelty to escape. >> he says it's his wife, the vice president, who helps him keep it real. >> okay, so what does she call you again? >> dougie. >> that was a good imitation. >> it doesn't matter where we are, on stage in front of the team, it's like dougie or my dougie as she's adjusting my collar and checking things out. >> but your official title is second gentleman. >> oh, that, that's her when she's having fun with my title. she'll say scdotus. >> it's hard to say. >> doi saw god bless you? [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> being the second gentleman means taking the role seriously but not always taking himself too seriously. [ laughter ] >> so almost two years in, do you feel like you've got a handle on what this job is, what this new job is?