they could go to kramatorsk, and it would be horrible for the russians to other towns in ukraine in the donetsk direction in the east of ukraine. >> secretary-general, do you think devoting time and resources and equipment to that fight in bakhmut is worth it for ukraine? >> i'm not going to interfere with ukrainian decisions on their military strategy and tactics and that's for the ukrainians to decide. what i think we should do as western countries is to deliver all of the offensive weapons that the ukrainians need to withstand the russian offensive, but also to retake lost land. >> a year into this war, do you think they have what they need to pull off a win? >> no. they don't have what they need. we need to deliver much more