voice saying in the ship's loud speaker, did not move, please do not move from your current location, absolutely do not move. it seems apparent that if the kids -- remember, two-thirds of the passengers on board were children, high school students, that more of them would havive ll would have lived if they had not done that. >> it makes all of us very upset. me in particular because i love kids. it's one of my focuses. kid's education. and the fact that the orders were not given to abandon ship when it was obvious that they were going to have serious problems is not only a dereliction of duty but borderline criminal. i'm not going to go into the legal aspects obviously. it's unforgivable that all those lives, or most of those lives, could have been saved, given the proper order and actions. >> fabien's not going to go into the legal aspects, john, but you can. i wonder if you could address that. also back to the number of people who have been arrested. if so many people are responsible, does that mean that