>> nothing rational about it. >> conservatively an aficionado. >> nerdism, how -- >> this about as bad as it gets. >> you have other operating manuals? >> yes. >> books, printed ephemera, fred remains an enduring love for the great iron horses. but it's something more than just nostalgia. it's also an precious for a dies art. >> it's like the old cruise ships. you transport your comfort, you know? >> for those halcyon days of cross-country rails, lavish dining cars, luxurious sleeping compartments, a bar car with liveried attendants. >> look at the menus, how people used to eat on the trains. >> with the sweetbreads and fresh peas.