years of this coming christmas, because of deployments, our son and our son-in-law were gone for much of the last several years. but we will all be back together, and we will all be around that table. we will be breaking right, we will be saying our prayers, and my best advice is to just go home for dinner. >> and my suggestion, my observation is that they are going to have a big topic of conversation at that christmas dinner. we are going to talk about that when we come back. we will have more with former vice president pence after this break, thank you. [applause]