enough to wrestle the deep state. >> i am joined now by one of the most influential evangelical leaders and he's endorsed ron desantis in november. i appreciate you being with us. the latest des moines register poll has more than 51% up from 2016. you've got a great read on what is going on in iowa. do you believe these polls? >> no, anderson. i've said it for a long time my pulse just doesn't match the polls. because if those polls are right, every other person on my base would have to tell me they're voting for trump and that's just not the case. they're very appreciative what the former president did, and moving the embass toe jerusalem and appointing three supreme court justices and the abraham accords and a lot of things like that, but they always followed it up with a but, but i believe they'll win in 2024 and therefore they need to turn the page and that's why i believe there will be a break for governor ron desantis tomorrow