>> you know, just on the streets, for example, what -- what's really jarring right now is that you have these -- uh -- you know, silence piercing series of explosions and gunfire. but other than that, it is extremely quiet. i mean, the sun is coming up here as -- as well as lviv. you can hear the birds chirping but it is incredibly quiet in the streets. no one is about. no cars. but of course, michael, many, many people not just in kyiv but across the country, are going to want to be fleeing and they already are. the ukrainian train service, put on special trains on friday to get people out of the capital. their goal was around 10,000 people. you saw those scenes. those -- those trains being mobbed. um, it is such a stark contrast to just a couple days ago, when so many ukrainians, including the president, did not believe that a war was going to happen. of course, that changed very quickly, um, with with this --