when restrictions were removed, in that there are vaccines. there are vaccines available for any parent who wants to vaccinate their child, who is 5 years and older. there's vaccines for adults. we need to do more to encourage people who are 65 and older to get their boosters, because that is the group that is bearing the greatest burden in terms of hospitalization and deaths from omicron. and the u.s. lags other welty wealthy nations by a large margin in vaccination in that population. but for younger people, you're right. as the numbers are coming down, as people are vaccinated, allowing people to do more and showing that you are responding to the situation, i think, is something that we're seeing many states consider, and i think it's a realistic thing to consider doing. >> dr. richard besser, always a pleasure to speak to you. nice to see you. >> thanks, john. >> up next, a different view of covid and to the question dr. besser just asked, what's