with subpoenas from the january 6th committee. obviously, it's one thing to actually fight a subpoena in court. it's another to completely ignore it at the direction of the former president, isn't it? >> he has no authority to do that. each of those people have to decide what they can do, and they can't say, well, i'm acting under the orders of former president trump. that's no order. it is meaningless. so they can find themselves in contempt. and anderson, again, this is where the house has failed to get itself in order, to prepare for this. there are remedies for this. there are housekeeping things they can do and make these subpoenas through their inherent contempt powers have some meaning. >> why wouldn't they do that if that was a possibility? what is the inherent contempt power you're talking about? >> boy, i don't know. i cannot figure out. it is a no-brainer. ted liu introduced in the last congress and again in this