some movement and some shifting there. what do you take away from those changes? >> well, what it shows is what governor kasich said is absolutely correct, that joe biden is more resilient than anybody thought he would be, including myself. and you've had individuals who popped up to that second place number. you've had kamala harris over the summer. you had elizabeth warren, you've had pete buttigieg, you've had all of these people kind of rise to this second level and not be able to overtake him. and what you see is that the two individuals who have the highest name id, the two individuals who were the most known quantity coming into the race, bernie sanders and joe biden are still up top. and one of the things that democrats are looking for is number one, who can beat donald trump, who is build that coalition necessary to beat donald trump. and what we see is joe biden is looming large and winning in this race in most of the national polls and overwhelming number of votes that vote after the first four states, all because he can bill that coalition. >> you have set me up perfectly,