that i think you're going to hear a lot next week is, i didn't talk to these people. the leadoff witness is ambassador taylor. and as taylor has acknowledged, he did not have one-on-one conversations with president trump. and that, i think, will be a major republican talking point come wednesday. >> the democrats in congress our congressional team has done some reporting on this tonight, is preparing for these hearings at a level they haven't done before, certainly more than the mueller hearings. they're going to have counsel do the questioning here. it does seem they're very aware of what maggie describes as the tv moment that will be happening. >> absolutely. and if you know, you think all the way back to watergate, sam irvin was the chairman of the committee. it was one of the defining moments of the 1970s. the 1998 clinton hearings themselves weren't as dramatic. you didn't have john dean or anyone equivalent. but i mean this is going to be one of the things donald trump's