screwdriver with a handle? that could be used as a shank? that is a weapon. he is a convicted killer. his partner is a convicted killer. >> not only a convicted killer. a police killer in the case of sweat and somebody who dismembered -- >> worst case sa theiry.nar scenario. he has a bad day. you gave him a shank. he can open you up with like a can opener. >> the he gave the guy hamburger meat without putting it through the metal detector to you that is simply unbelievable? >> i can't believe it no. there is just no excuse for it. none whatsoever. i have never heard of anything like that where a sworn uniformed member of service would do something like that. at the behest of a civilian employee. like i said he was duty bound from the moment she asked him to do that to report it. >> as somebody who worked in prisons how do you prevent that relationship from developing? clearly in the case of gene palmer he trusted these guys? awe thought is a personal