comes forward for you, that be the moment where you say, oh yes. this happens to be a really bad case. there is another officer on the scene. >> let me ask dan. >> i think that officer needs to answer what he believes that was dropped on the ground and plant, and if it is he also needs to be charged. >> dan, just very briefly. i mean because we got to go to break and mark please don't jump on this. let dan finish is there still the blue wall of silence, everybody knows about that to the best of my memory and everybody knows how things have been with a lot of police forces doctors have a wall of silence, isn't there still a blue wall of silence, dan? >> when i got on the police department of course there's that hole off, everybody silo off and protect your friends. i'm not going to deny that happened. but i tell you what anderson. that's been breaking down slowly over time. it's never going to be wrong but

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