problems here. i sat at the threat table every morning when eric holder became attorney general. there were only about 12 of us. he has to think of the thing you mentioned, volume. in my old world, three people, five people, that's a lot of people to follow. you talk about dozens or hundred whose may have received training overseas. that volume issue is significant in the terrorism world. the second issue i mentioned is time. we're in 2014 now. what if this goes into next year, the year after? the war in syria is three or four years old and you expand to 100 kids, 200 kids. that combination of the volume of kids going over and the amount of time you have to watch this problem, to me, if i were sitting at the threat table could be daunting. >> robert, you have the situation for europeans, once you have a european passport, you can travel anywhere through europe. it's not as if your passport will be checked from going to france and germany or switzerland, wherever you go, you have free access to travel. the threat for europeans and