>> not really. scooter libby didn't agree with that decision. i don't -- i -- people look at the total picture. and we're friends then and friends now. >> can you enlighten us to the painting? [ laughter ] >> george w. rembrandt. >> he was looking for a pastime when he gave up smoking cigars. so he read churchill's book, painting is a pastime. and he's actually very good. he's a very good painter. >> what do you get from it? >> a lot of things. i relax, i see colors differently. i am i guess tapping a part of the brain that i certainly never used when i was a teenager and i get some satisfaction out of completing a project.