they all looked fine. they didn't want to talk on camera, but they were literally in their house, they heard all these gun shots. next thing you know, the police are telling them to get out and raced them out. the one man did confirm there is a boat kind of in dry dock or on a trailer, i couldn't understand him correctly, in the backyard. so that's, i just wanted to button that up that those people are fine even though it was a somewhat dramatic escape as the police were getting them out. >> drew, appreciate that. john king, your sources tell you there had been an engagement of fire. does that mean on both sides, this suspect, possible suspect, had fired back? >> don't know the answer to that. i was just told by a federal law enforcement official that officers on the scene had engaged an individual they believed to be the suspect they were looking for, then at that point, they had trapped in the backyard and when they believe there was no -- he was not escaping, they were told to just keep their positions and wait until bomb squad and more