and michelle obama. you didn't have a choice. all roads through the white house led to barbara walters as you point out. >> exactly. she was one i think candidates they needed to prove themselves to her in a way, in an interesting way. they needed to win her over. >> that's right. and do it while somehow avoiding crying. i remember how many people would sit down for a barbara walters interview and be like i vowed to myself i wasn't going to cry, but here i am weeping. you know, somehow she just turned on the waterworks for people. i think we have a bob iger from abc statement here. he says -- he just tweeted out she was a wonderful and kind reporter merchandise he says barbara was a true legend, a pioneer not just for women in journalism but for journalism it. she was a wonderful and kind reporter who landed one of the most important interviews of our time. from heads of state to the biggest regimes and sports